Self-states: State-dependent, Not Trait-dependent

Summary

The discussion focused on distinguishing state-dependent behavior and self states, which are transient and influenced by environmental and emotional cues, from enduring personality traits that are genetically determined and stable across situations. State-dependent phenomena, including memory recall and learning, vary with an individual's biological or psychological state, while traits represent consistent predispositions that modulate responses to situational triggers. The speaker emphasized that traits interact with changing environments to manifest as state-dependent expressions, forming complex self states relevant to mental health and personality disorders.

Tags

Tip: click a paragraph to jump to the exact moment in the video.

  1. 00:02 In both healthy people and people who are mentally unwell, self states are transient. They’re not permanent. As you may recall, self states are reactive to environmental cues, changing circumstances, new people in our lives. So self states are there to respond um appropriately
  2. 00:33 to the changing parameters of one’s ecosystem or habitat. Therefore they are transitory. Self states change all the time like a river in flux. Self states therefore are state dependent. They are not trait dependent. They’re not permanent. They’re not
  3. 01:00 hereditary. And today I would like to discuss the difference between these two. State dependent behavior is a set of actions that are affected by one’s emotional state usually but also sometimes by cognitions. So if you say something hurtful to another person while you’re angry,
  4. 01:26 you’re displaying state dependent behavior. You’re not angry because this is your trait. You’re not angry because you’re always angry. You’re not angry because you are an angry person. You’re angry because something has happened to unsettle you, to discomfort you, to
  5. 01:46 provoke you. You’re angry because the state of things has changed. So your anger is state dependent. But anger and similar reactance or reactivity are only one aspect of state dependency. Many many things are state dependent. For example, there is state dependent
  6. 02:08 dependent learning. That is learning that occurs in a particular biological or psychological state. And this kind of learning is recalled or brought to memory much better when the individual is subsequently in the same state. So if you have learned something in a highly
  7. 02:31 specific environment with highly specific circumstances embedded in highly specific events in a specific sequence the specificity the specificity of all these is the state. When you find yourself in a similar state or a state that is reminiscent of
  8. 02:49 the previous state, your recall, your memory would be much stronger. You’re much more likely to remember the things that you have learned when the first state has taken place. Recall may be diminished when the individual is in a different state. For example, when we train rats
  9. 03:10 to navigate a maze while under the influence of a psychoactive drug of some kind, fenobital or whatever, um, they don’t run it as successfully without the drug. It seems that they associate the task, the learned task, they associate the learning with the
  10. 03:33 drug. When they’re not given the drug, their recall is compromised. They’re much worse at negotiating the maze. But given the drug and the memories flawed back and they’re able to navigate the maze much better. This is also called dissociated learning. Context
  11. 03:57 dependent learning is a learning that has occurred in a particular place, particular circumstance, a state for example while you are intoxicated and is displayed only in that context and not when testing occurs or situation occurs in another context. This is contextual a
  12. 04:18 kind of contextual association. a connection learned between items or material that an organism is exposed to and the context and circumstance in which that exposure has occurred. For example, a lecture. You’re listening to this lecture and it may be associated
  13. 04:38 with whatever it is that you’re doing right now. You’re lying in bed. You’re ironing. You’re twiddling your thumbs in a classroom. The lecture is you’re exposed to the lecture while embedded in a highly specific situation or context. And that contextual association facilitates
  14. 04:58 memory retrieval. So the recall of the lecture would be better when you’re exactly in the same state. In other words, you would tend to record this lecture much better where next time you’re ironing or next time you’re in bed than when you’re not. These are facts.
  15. 05:17 State dependency is a crucial facet of conditioning of learning of emotionality or effective effective regulation of um uh certain types of cognition and so on. Memory is highly state dependent. State state dependent memory is a condition in which memory for a past event is
  16. 05:41 improved when the person is in the same biological or psychological state as when the memory was initially formed. So I mentioned for example alcohol. Alcohol actually improves one recall of events that have been experienced when one was previously under the influence of alcohol.
  17. 06:02 Um, so this is counterintuitive because we tend to believe that alcohol reduces the ability to recall memories. That is not true. If the memories were formed while you were consuming alcohol, you’re likely to remember them to bring them to awareness much more powerfully and
  18. 06:22 accurately and intensely when you’re again under the influence of alcohol. I will not go now into questions of encoding and retrieval and sober state compared to alcohol. That’s another time for another lecture. But a distinctive state may arise from a drug mood a
  19. 06:42 particular place and we even have mood dependent memory. A memory of an event for an event can be recalled more readily when one is in the same emotional mood. If you if you have formed a memory, if you’ve created a memory when you were sad, you’re likely
  20. 07:03 to recall this memory much more authentically and accurately when you’re again sad. Similarly, if some of your memories are associated with a state of contentment or happiness, you would have much better access to them, unfettered access to them when you’re again content
  21. 07:23 or happy. The initial the state within which the memory has been initially formed informs the ability or regulates modulates the ability to recall the memory much later in life. And so this is state dependency. Self states are state dependent. When
  22. 07:46 you act sometimes as um as an angry person that is state dependent. Similarly in psychological disorders there are self states. So a narcissist could have a borderline self state following motification narcissistic modification or narcissistic injury. A
  23. 08:08 borderline could have a narcissistic selfate or even a secondary psychopathic selfate. These self states are temporary. They’re triggered by changes in the environment, in circumstances, in the behaviors and input from other people. They’re context dependent. They
  24. 08:28 are not part of the essence of the narcissist or the essence of the borderline. They are there as reactive displays. They are there as strategies of coping with ever transmuting and ever mutating environments, ecosystems, habitats and circumstances.
  25. 08:48 This is state dependent self states. Self states of course are associated with specific traits but they’re not trait dependent. To explain the difference we need to understand what is a trait. A trait is an enduring personality characteristic that describes or determines an
  26. 09:11 individual behavior across a range of situations independent of situations or states. If you have a trait, you’re likely to have this trait in every environment with every set of circumstances with a variety of people regardless of your effects, emotions or
  27. 09:33 moods at the moment. This is what leads us to believe that traits are hereditary. They are determined by genetics. There is, for example, a narcissism trait. Every human being has a narcissism trait and a narcissism trait is expressable, manifests in all
  28. 09:57 circumstances. Now, people with a low level of narcissism trait as measured by the narcissistic personality inventory are likely to react in one way. Of course, people who are very high on on the trait to the point of malignancy when they become when they acquire
  29. 10:13 narcissistic personality disorder would react completely differently. In genetics, a trait is an attribute resulting from a hereditary predisposition. So we all know uh physiological we all we’re all acquainted with physiological traits such as hair color or facial
  30. 10:34 features but psychological traits are similarly determined. All traits are organized. They they don’t appear individually. They are within clusters and these clusters interact with each other in a hyper structure. Trait organization is the way in which an individual’s personality
  31. 10:56 characteristics are related and comprise a unique integrated whole whose appearance we call personality. There is a whole theory about traits or actually multiple theories about traits and these are theories or approaches that explain personality in terms of
  32. 11:18 internal characteristics that are presumed to determine behavior. We have for example all ports personality trait theory, cartels personality trait theory, five factor personality model and so on and so forth. These theories are reductionist in the sense that many
  33. 11:35 of them ignore the environment, ignore personal history and upbringing, ignore contextual triggers, which is a mistake in my view. Let’s for example try to understand a trait in terms of something you’re all acquainted with, anxiety. There is a trait of anxiety.
  34. 11:57 It’s the proness to experience anxiety. how prone you are, how likely you are to experience anxiety. People with high trait anxiety tend to view the world as more dangerous and hostile or threatening. People with low trait anxiety re view the world more neutrally or even
  35. 12:18 as non-hostile as a beneficial place as a non-threatening place. And so people with a high trait anxiety respond with state anxiety to situations that would not elicit this response in people with low trait anxiety. If you want to learn more about this, you should study the
  36. 12:38 work of Charles Spielberger or Spielberger in 1972, 1983 and so on. So
  37. 12:46 the trait is like a predisposition is like a template and it is the environment the changing states both external environment and internal environment in the external environment things change people come and go the physical environment changes temperature
  38. 13:04 goes up and down I mean million things happen in the external environment but also the internal environment your moods change you’ve had a thought there’s a new cognition Your emotions are in flux. All these create an environmental contextual set of cues. Environmental
  39. 13:22 contextual queuing and these trigger the trait and we say that the trait then becomes state dependent. The expression of the trait is state dependent. The trait is there always there. It’s genetically and hereditarily determined but its expression and manifestation are
  40. 13:46 triggered by changes in the external and internal environment. There are many other traits that you’re aware of. I would mention just one which is goes hand in hand usually with pathological nar with narcissism I’m sorry with trait narcissism um and that is selffocus. There are
  41. 14:07 other traits that go with trait narcissism and in a confluence these traits may amount to a pathology. So for example if you have trait narcissism trait dissociity trait anastia obsessivecompulsive um kind of disorder trait of antagonism trait negative affectivity. If you put
  42. 14:28 all these basket basket of traits together what you get is the equivalent of pathological narcissism. Similarly, trait selffocus. Self focus is a direction of conscious attention onto oneself. You’re focused on your thoughts, your needs, your desires, your
  43. 14:47 emotions. Trait selffocus refers to a chronic habit or pattern of self-consciousness. The state selffocus refers to objective self-awareness, self-awareness within the environment. The excess of trait selffocus is associated with the development or the
  44. 15:09 heightened vulnerability to several mental health disorders such as alcohol use disorder, depression, anxiety disorders. So self-focused attention is a key clinical feature in all these. So self focus could be trade dependent could be state dependent.
  45. 15:31 I believe the correct way to look at it is that the environment changes in the in the environment trigger the traits and a combination of traits constitutes a self state. And if you want to learn more about my approach, visit the IPAM IPAM playlist
  46. 15:55 where I expound on my intracychic activation morning. Have a state free and tradefree day.
Facebook
X
LinkedIn
WhatsApp

https://vakninsummaries.com/ (Full summaries of Sam Vaknin’s videos)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/mediakit.html (My work in psychology: Media Kit and Press Room)

Bonus Consultations with Sam Vaknin or Lidija Rangelovska (or both) http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/ctcounsel.html

http://www.youtube.com/samvaknin (Narcissists, Psychopaths, Abuse)

http://www.youtube.com/vakninmusings (World in Conflict and Transition)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com (Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/cv.html (Biography and Resume)

Summary

The discussion focused on distinguishing state-dependent behavior and self states, which are transient and influenced by environmental and emotional cues, from enduring personality traits that are genetically determined and stable across situations. State-dependent phenomena, including memory recall and learning, vary with an individual's biological or psychological state, while traits represent consistent predispositions that modulate responses to situational triggers. The speaker emphasized that traits interact with changing environments to manifest as state-dependent expressions, forming complex self states relevant to mental health and personality disorders.

Tags

If you enjoyed this article, you might like the following:

How You BEHAVE is NOT Who you ARE (Identity, Memory, Self)

Sam Vaknin argues that core identity (the self) is distinct from behaviors: identity is an immutable, continuous narrative formed early in life, while behaviors, choices, and roles can change across time. He discusses clinical, legal, and philosophical implications, including dissociative identity disorder, concluding that even when behavior changes dramatically the

Read More »

Unconditional Love in Adult Relationships (Family Insourcing and Outsourcing)

Professor argues that ‘unconditional love’ means accepting a person’s core identity, not tolerating all behaviors, and distinguishes loving someone as they are from trying to change or control them. He traces modern misunderstandings to Romanticism’s idealization of partners and the outsourcing/insourcing shifts that hollowed family functions while turning the home

Read More »

Sociosexual Narcissist: CRM vs. Agency Models (Clip Skopje Seminar Opening, May 2025)

The speaker opened with multilingual greetings and briefly noted living in the Czech Republic and Poland. The main content summarized models of narcissism: sociosexuality and the contextual reinforcement model (narcissists seek novelty, destabilize stable contexts, and prefer short-term interactions), and the agency model with five elements—focus on agency, inflated self-concept,

Read More »

Baited, Ejected: YOU in Narcissist’s Shared Fantasy (CLIP, University of Applied Sciences, Poland)

The speaker explained Sander’s concept of the “shared fantasy”—a mutual, addictive narrative created by narcissists and their partners that becomes a competing reality and relates to historical notions like mass psychogenic illness. The talk detailed how narcissists recruit and bind targets through stages—spotting/auditioning, exposure of a childlike self, resonance, idealization

Read More »

Psychology of Fraud and Corruption (Criminology Intro in CIAPS, Cambridge, UK)

Professor explained financial crime as a white-collar subtype, focusing on fraud and corruption and arguing that many offenders show significant psychopathology rather than ordinary greed. Key psychological features include magical thinking, impulsivity, entitlement, narcissism, psychopathy, impaired reality testing, dissociation, lack of empathy, grandiosity, and compulsive behaviors (e.g., kleptomania) that make

Read More »

Abuse Victims MUST Watch This! (with Psychotherapist Renzo Santa María)

Professor Sam Vaknin argued that narcissistic abuse causes distinct, reversible trauma by imposing the abuser’s deficits on victims—eroding identity, agency, reality testing, and inducing internalized ‘introject’ voices that perpetuate suffering. He recommended initial self-work (identifying and silencing alien internal voices, rebuilding an authentic internal friend, body-focused interventions, and delaying therapy

Read More »

“Bad” Relationships Are Opportunities (with Daria Zukowska, Clinical Psychologist)

Professor Sam Vaknin discussed dysfunctional relationships and reframed them as learning opportunities rather than “lost time,” emphasizing that growth requires emotional insight and embodiment in addition to cognitive understanding. He explained that negative self-concept arises from internalized hostile voices, can be countered by developing an authentic, supportive inner voice, and

Read More »

Narcissism: BIBLE Got There FIRST! (FULL VIDEO in Description)

The speaker discussed narcissistic traits as described in the Bible, emphasizing its detailed characterization predates modern diagnostic manuals like the DSM and ICD. They highlighted the diagnostic criteria from the DSM and the lack of narcissistic personality disorder diagnosis in the ICD, noting regional variations in terminology usage. The lecture

Read More »

Why Narcissists MUST Abuse YOU (Skopje Seminar Opening, May 2025)

The seminar, organized by the Vaknin Vangelovska Foundation, provided an in-depth, research-based exploration of pathological narcissism, its impact on victims, and the complex dynamics of the shared fantasy between narcissists and those they manipulate. Key topics included the distinction between narcissistic personality disorder and narcissistic style, the contagious nature of

Read More »