Narcissism? Munchausen and Munchausen by Proxy Syndromes

Uploaded 11/24/2013, approx. 3 minute read

Summary

Munchausen Syndrome and Munchausen Biproxi Syndrome are forms of shared psychosis, where patients feign or self-inflict serious illness or injury to gain attention from medical personnel. Munchausen Biproxi Syndrome involves the patient inducing illness in or causing injury to a dependent to gain attention as a caretaker. These syndromes are not the same as classical narcissism, as patients with Munchausen Syndrome desire acceptance, love, and caring, and have a clinging, insecure, traumatized, deceitful, and needy true self. Patients with Munchausen Syndrome derive emotional nurturance and sustenance mainly from healthcare practitioners.

Tags

My name is Sam Vaknin, I am the author of Malignant Self-Love, Narcissism Revisited.

Patients afflicted with a factitious disorder, colloquially known as Minischausen Syndrome, seek to attract the attention of medical personnel by feigning or by self-inflicting serious illness or even injury.

Minschausen biproxi Syndrome, another type of disease, is also known as factitious illness or disorder by proxy, factitious illness imposed by another, or in the United Kingdom, FII, fabricated or induced illness by carers.

Anyhow, Minschausen biproxi Syndrome involves the patient inducing illness in or causing injury to a dependent, usually a child or an old parent. This is done in order to gain in her capacity as a caretaker the attention, praise and sympathy of medical care providers.

Both syndromes, Minschausen Syndrome and Minschausen Biproxi Syndrome are forms of shared psychosis, foliar deux or foliar plizio. It is a form of crazy-making with hospital staff as unwilling and unwitting participants in the drama.

Superficially, this overwhelming need for consideration by figures of authority, by role models such as doctors and nurses, this need for attention resembles the narcissist’s relentless and composite pursuit of narcissistic supply.

Narcissistic supply to remind you, consists of attention, adulation, admiration or being feared and noted. Still, there are important differences between classical narcissism and Minischausen and Minischausen Biproxi.

To start with, the narcissist, especially the somatic narcissist, worships his body and cherishes his health. If anything, narcissists tend to be hypochondriacs. They are loath to self-harm and self-mutilate. They are reluctant to fake laboratory tests and consume potentially deleterious substances in medications.

Unlike the Minischausen patient, they are not likely to harm themselves. They are also unlikely to seriously damage their sources of supply, in other words, their own children, as long as they are compliant and adulating.

As opposed to narcissists, people with both Minischausen syndromes desire acceptance, love, caring. They seek relationships and naturally, not merely, attention. Theirs is an emotional need that amounts to much more than the mere regulation of their sense of self-worth, as is the case with narcissists.

People with Minischausen syndrome have no full-fledged false self. Only a clinging, insecure, traumatized, deceitful and needy true self.

Minschausen syndrome may be called morbid, can be diagnosed with personality disorders.

And patients are pathological liars. Some of them are schizoid, paranoid, hypervigilant and aggressive, especially when they are controlled.

But this doesn’t make them narcissists. While narcissists are indiscriminate and promiscuous when it comes to their sources of narcissistic supply, anyone would do.

Patients with Minischausen syndrome derive emotional nurturings and sustenance mainly from health care practitioners.

Facebook
X
LinkedIn
WhatsApp

Summary Link:

https://vakninsummaries.com/ (Full summaries of Sam Vaknin’s videos)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/mediakit.html (My work in psychology: Media Kit and Press Room)

Bonus Consultations with Sam Vaknin or Lidija Rangelovska (or both) http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/ctcounsel.html

http://www.youtube.com/samvaknin (Narcissists, Psychopaths, Abuse)

http://www.youtube.com/vakninmusings (World in Conflict and Transition)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com (Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/cv.html (Biography and Resume)

Summary

Munchausen Syndrome and Munchausen Biproxi Syndrome are forms of shared psychosis, where patients feign or self-inflict serious illness or injury to gain attention from medical personnel. Munchausen Biproxi Syndrome involves the patient inducing illness in or causing injury to a dependent to gain attention as a caretaker. These syndromes are not the same as classical narcissism, as patients with Munchausen Syndrome desire acceptance, love, and caring, and have a clinging, insecure, traumatized, deceitful, and needy true self. Patients with Munchausen Syndrome derive emotional nurturance and sustenance mainly from healthcare practitioners.

Tags

If you enjoyed this article, you might like the following:

Narcissism: Birth Order, Siblings (Literature Review)

The discussion explored the likelihood of siblings developing narcissistic personality disorder, emphasizing that birth order and being an only child have minimal impact on the development of pathological narcissism, which is likely influenced more by genetic predisposition and environmental factors. Studies indicate that both overt and covert narcissism can arise

Read More »

Sexualizing Anxiety and Anxiolytic Sex: Misattribution of Arousal

The concept of misattribution of arousal, where anxiety and sexual arousal are often confused or interchangeably misidentified, impacting emotional and physiological responses. It highlighted how anxiety can be mistaken for sexual attraction and vice versa, with both conditions influencing behavior and perception, including gender roles and narcissism. Various studies were

Read More »

Artificial Human Intelligence: Brain as Quantum Computer?

The speaker discussed their new project focused on developing a mathematical specification for an implantable PLL chip that would enable the brain to perceive the entire quantum wave function, including all collapsed and non-collapsed states, effectively transforming the brain into a powerful quantum computer. They argued that the brain is

Read More »

Narcissist’s Idealization in Grandiosity Bubble

Sam Vaknin explained the concept of grandiosity bubbles as defensive fantasy constructs narcissists create to maintain an inflated self-image and avoid confronting reality, especially during transitions between sources of narcissistic supply. These bubbles serve as temporary, protective isolations where the narcissist can recover from narcissistic injury without experiencing humiliation or

Read More »

Your Defensive Identification with the Aggressor (Abuser)

The psychological concept of “identifying with the aggressor,” where victims of abuse unconsciously adopt traits and behaviors of their abusers as a defense mechanism to cope with trauma and gain a sense of control. This process, rooted in childhood development and psychoanalytic theory, often leads to maladaptive coping, perpetuates the

Read More »

Back to Our Future: Neo-Feudalism is End of Enlightenment (Starts 01:27)

The speaker discussed the ongoing societal shift from Enlightenment ideals—science, liberal democracy, and bureaucracy—toward a resurgence of feudalism characterized by theocracy, oligarchy, and totalitarianism. This regression reflects widespread disillusionment with elitism and institutional failure, leading to a nihilistic period where the masses reject Enlightenment values in favor of authoritarian models

Read More »

Healthy Self-regulation vs. Dysregulation

Sam Vaknin explores the concept of self-regulation, emphasizing that it primarily concerns controlling behavior rather than internal processes, and highlights its significance in goal attainment and impulse control. He critiques the traditional notion of the “self” in self-regulation, noting the fluidity of identity and the social context’s role, and discusses

Read More »

When YOU Adopt Slave Mentality in Narcissist’s Shared Fantasy

The speaker explored the concept of slave mentality in victims of narcissistic abuse, explaining how narcissists enforce a shared fantasy that suppresses victims’ autonomy and identity. The speaker emphasized that victims often succumb to this mentality because it offers a deceptive sense of safety, predictability, and unconditional love akin to

Read More »

10 Signs: YOU are Broken, Damaged, Scarred

Sam Vaknin discusses the psychological patterns and clinical features common among damaged and broken individuals, emphasizing the impacts of trauma, mistrust, emotional detachment, and difficulties with intimacy and boundaries. He highlights defense mechanisms such as hypervigilance, emotional numbness, conflict avoidance, perfectionism, and the harsh inner critic, explaining how these behaviors

Read More »

Narcissism is So Hard to Believe! (with Yulia Kasprzhak, Clinician)

In-depth analysis of narcissistic personality disorder, emphasizing the distinction between narcissists, psychopaths, and borderlines, highlighting narcissists as delusional and psychotic with impaired reality testing and confabulation rather than manipulative liars. It discussed the complexities of narcissistic relationships, including “hoovering,” the dynamics of narcissistic abuse, and the detrimental impact on partners,

Read More »