Well, you know, Professor, every since stuff came out, right, with social media and all this, even you talk to any family law practice and attorney, the divorce rates have been skyrocketing.

And now no one wants to really get married anymore because they’re anticipating the inevitable what’s going on. People get married only a year. It’s over with. It’s done.

And most of the cases, it’s from someone, some infidelity or something, through social media. They’re hooking up with somebody. It’s so accessible to now create different connections with total strangers and then build from there. And the accessibility to be able to do that is so much more now than what it was, say, 20 years ago.

And that’s another thing I would say. I want your opinion on it, how much it’s played into the decline where marriage and stuff has been more so it’s outdated now, almost in a sense.

Well, social media and technology more generally, they fed into existing trends, social trends. What they did, you’re right, they catalyzed them. They sped up the interactions.

So where in the past you had to work very hard to find 10 strangers to interact with, today a thousand strangers are nothing, the push of a button.

Where in the past, in order to date, you had to go through a series of processes and steps and so on and so forth and still ended up dating.

But today, to date, all you have to do is swipe left or swipe right or whatever. So it’s a catalyst. It’s not a cause. It’s not a prime cause. It didn’t cause anything, but it catalyzed to the point that quantity became quality and speed became quality.

So that if you can do things much faster, you do them more often. And if you do them more often, the damage is compounded, the damage to social fabric, damage to social institutions, damage to hope and to anticipation.

Today, young people, for example, fully expects relationships to fail. Less, fewer than 6% of young people try to attempt to have a relationship. 81%, 81% of young people, when I say young, under the age of 25, 81% of young people, this, the exclusive sexual modality is hookups. They have never had any other sexual experience with an intimate partner. One night stands. That’s it. Nothing else. That’s 81% men.

So the situation is such that the ability of technology to fast forward, to speed, to accelerate, had been translated into qualitative changes in institutions, in sexual scripts, in behaviors, both romantic, sexual and intimate, in workplace relationships, in everything, in politics, in everything.

You can’t blame technology for just emphasizing existing social trends, but you can blame technology for not building in safeguards, because it would have been extremely easy to build in safeguards, extremely easy, but not profitable.

For example, I’ll give you two examples of safeguards.

One, limit the number of hours you can be on social media. Have a clock. Have a clock. After two hours, that’s it. That’s your allocation. End of story. Number two, you cannot have as friends, people you don’t know. You can have as friends, only people who know you, and supply a written attestation that they know you.

So then you have real friends on Facebook, and you spend two hours on Facebook. These would have been massive safeguards against conditioning, against adultery, against cheating, against addiction.

Only these two steps that I’ve just mentioned would have solved 90% of the problems we’re discussing. But of course it would have cut down the profit of Facebook by 90% and Facebook shareholders, and Mark Zuckerberg wouldn’t have it.

It’s all about money, and the hell with humanity. We are living in a death cult.

Western civilization has become a death cult, where we sacrifice human values, human institutions, long-held traditions, and human bodies, human beings, for the sake of money.

Look what’s happening with vaccination.

We don’t abrogate vaccine patterns, because pharmaceutical industries would make, instead of $16 billion that Pfizer made, Pfizer would have made $6 billion. And that’s not enough, $6 billion. They want to make $60 billion.

So the hell with the dying Indians, 4,000 of them a day. So we sacrifice human beings and everything human to the monarch of material goods and money, and that’s a death cult, because material goods are dead.

It’s a fanatic society. It’s a society built on the death instinct, not on the life instinct.

And the greed of society now seems to be more overwhelming, more people are into what they can get, and instantly, and never mind the consequences.

And you know where I’m going with that, that seems to be kind of along the lines of the cluster B typical narcissist, they don’t care, they see this money, and by any means necessary, if they can get it, they’re going to do it.

Even if it means people have to die. Even if it means that you’re corrupting minds, they’re going to go for it.

It’s not only money.

You see a sexual partner in a bar. You got to go for it. You got to consume him. We consume, we consume money, we consume material goods, we consume other people, we consume them and spit them out.

We don’t bother to build long term relationships.

So one might think, sex is one might think, and relationships are a two night thing, if you’re lucky.

I mean, we are consumers, we simply consider the main mode of the main mode of interaction in modern Western civilization had become consumption.

And the second mode of interaction is simulation. So, we either consume, or we simulate.

When we consume, we consume everything, we consume other people, we consume money, we consume our time.

When we simulate, we simulate things that we used to have.

So we simulate traditions, we simulate emotions, we simulate relationships, we simulate political activism, we see relating, we see related gender relationships, everything our fathers and forefathers used to have took it for granted.

Today we have to put an effort into, we simulate it, it’s not really even, it’s fake.

But we’re trying, we’re trying to fake it. We hope to make it, we’ll never make it.

And speaking of it, because you now you see so many, and I get this a lot, especially with a lot of my followers.

They wonder about why is it so bad in the dating field now, you know where most people, people are busy now so yes they’re going to go to social media. They’re going to go online dating, and I say that it’s a trap that some of the most vile people are on there.

I’m not saying all, but a high proportionate amount of individuals. These are where the sexual predators are and the psychopath, sociopaths, all these types of individuals prey on individuals that are on there and it’s a practice ground for them.

They get tons and tons of practice, not just people in their local area but all over now. So now people are saying, well how do I date, how do I get to in a social media driven world. How do I, how do I, you know, properly vet someone who I may have to go through that channel or that route in order to find in order to meet someone, because it seems like everyone’s getting burnt.

They’re not going out and having the belief that they can somehow even change someone on there and this is my opinion.

Most of these individuals are like you said they’re consuming your like food, and they see you and they come on there.

What do you say to people who are still having the belief or some people are addicted to going on these social media platforms to get to find dating that’s the only way they know how to find a date.

What do you say about that.

It’s a problem because all alternative institutions have crumbled.

You used to find a date because your friends had introduced dates to you, but we don’t have friends anymore. We used to find dates because your auntie knew someone’s auntie who knew someone who might have got through family, family channels, we don’t have family anymore. We used to find dates because you lived in a village or in a town or in a city even or in a neighborhood where everyone knew each other, you know, and they knew singles and they introduce singles to each other. We don’t have neighborhoods anymore. We don’t have communities anymore. We hardly have nation states even that probably, you know, we don’t have alternative channels, we don’t have alternatives.

It’s not only dating, you’re mentioning dating, it’s not only dating, it’s everything. You don’t have alternatives for empathy and support.

So people go to therapies.

Psychotherapy is a symptom of an exceedingly sick society because only atomized, alienated, broken, damaged people who have no one to talk to go to psychotherapy, attend psychotherapy.

Psychotherapy is a major indicator of a breakdown of society. That you need to pay for someone to listen to you. That’s bloody sick. That’s seriously sick, you know, that you need to go online.

Among millions of sexual predators, you’re absolutely right, and pray to God that you will find someone who is not. That’s an indicator of sickness.

People refuse to have relationships.

There are studies by Lisa Wade as to what’s happening.

People think that people are afraid to tell each other that they’re looking for a relationship because it’s not cool. It’s not cool. They fake casualness.

Well over four-fifths of people under age 35 get drunk to the point of unconsciousness before they have sex with another person. That’s four-fifths. That’s four-fifths.

Why? Because the experience is horrible. It’s disgusting. Less than 10% experience orgasm. It’s a disgusting experience. Casual sex is a disgusting experience. Never mind what anyone tells you.

And so people have to numb themselves. They have to get themselves unconscious to do this.

And then it also signals to the other party, don’t worry, I’m drunk. I don’t know what I’m doing. I’m not threatening you with an intimacy. I’m not threatening you with a relationship. Don’t worry. It’s just sex. It’s meaningless. It’s emotionless, you know?

So we have come to a point where the disintegration of social institutions means that we have to act. We all are on our own. We have no guides, no help, no nothing. It’s a jungle out there and you’re all on your own.

And so where do you possibly see?

Because it looks grim. If it keeps going this way, it’s only going to get worse.

Where do you possibly, just from a forecast or a guess, a guesstimation of where this may end up leading 10, 20 years up the road, if it’s already trending in this pattern?

What are we in, what are we in stake for?

There are two possibilities, of course. One, the backlash.

People say they have with social media. We want love. We want warmth. We want empathy. We want acceptance. We want friends. We want community. We want, you know, and there’s a backlash. There’s a social revolution and we reassert ourselves as human beings.

Possibility, number one, we are seeing maybe hints of that in some forms of social activism, environmentalism, Black Lives Matter, etc. That’s one possibility.

But I’m not very optimistic because these movements are hijacked by narcissists and psychopaths. The minute they acquire a critical mass, narcissists and psychopaths infiltrate these movements and take over.

That’s not me. These are studies, recent studies that have demonstrated the preponderance and prevalence of narcissists and psychopaths in these movements. Explodes exponentially once these movements become a critical force.

So I’m not very optimistic. I think these movements are going to be hijacked and compromised by psychopaths and narcissists, as politics has been. Politics used to be a social movement, you know, in the 60s, for example, used to be a social movement. But look who we ended up with. We ended up with Nixon and Donald Trump. I mean, psychopathic narcissists.

Right.

So I’m not optimistic. I’m not optimistic about the chances of a backlash.

The other option.

How are these?

Okay.

There’s two options.

So the other option is that we can extrapolate this trend line. And we can say at the very, very, very end, we’re going to become 100 percent so sufficient. We’re going to avoid other people altogether. So we’re going to have Japanese sex dolls. We’re going to have virtual psychotherapists. We’re going to have zoom bars. Everyone will go to a bar and zoom.

Already you have zoom orgies. I’m kidding or not. We’re going to have a full fledged life online. And already companies like Google and Facebook and Twitter, they say, wow, the pandemic has been a blessing. We’re going to abolish our offices, our physical offices, and everyone’s going to work from home.

So the last vestige of socializing, which was the workplace, it was the last place you socialized with people. This place is going to be abolished and eliminated soon. You’re going to be stuck at home. You’re going to have a work life, work life from home. You’re going to date from home. You’re going to have sex probably from home.

And what is pornography?

Pornography is outsourced sex. It’s having sex at home.

Rather than going out to someone, you bring someone to you, visually at least. Shortly pornography will be via holograms, so you’ll be able to project the characters into your living room.

Then there will be a technology which will allow you to touch them, and that’ll be the end of it. And we’re going to have virtual sex. And sex is only one thing. You’ll work from home. You’ll have sex from home. Everything will be delivered to you and taken from you.

You know, you have already Uber, Uber Eats, and Amazon, and you name it. We are constructing knowingly, knowingly. We are constructing a society based on alienating, isolating, atomizing, self-sufficient, self-contained technologies. We’re all becoming unibobers.

Simple.

Yeah, I was going to say, that’s not a good thing. It makes people that don’t get enough social interaction become socially awkward. And worse.

Antisocial. A-social.

Right.

And that’s what we’re seeing today.

Look at the mass shootings that are going on. They’re starting to happen every week now. And they’re happening way more frequently.

I think in France there was a stabbing or something like that in Europe or something. They’re starting to happen with more frequency.

Allow me to correct you. Not every week, every day. You have 400 and something school shootings a year.

Wow. Wow. Every day, 1.4.

And that’s just, you know, especially with the pandemic that had people locked down.

You mentioned porn. I think that the porn site, the top ones, it was so much it broke their bandwidth. It broke their bandwidth. I mean, so that people are finding different vices, you know, to cope. These are coping mechanisms.

People gave up on each other. Men gave up on women. You have mixtiles, red pillows, insects. Men gave up on women. Women gave up on men. I mean, the heck with it. The genders gave up on each other.

Then people gave up on each other as friends and so on. People don’t get along with each other. They have no patience. They are intolerant. There’s a lot of aggression, much more than ever before, if you ask me. It’s sublimated aggression. It’s not open or hurt, but it’s passive aggressive.

So people are fed up with each other. Quite a long story short.