Children of Narcissist: Bad Mother’s Voice

Uploaded 6/28/2013, approx. 4 minute read

Summary

There is no such thing as a purely good mother, and the bad mother is always present. The good mother is predictable, reliable, and emotionally safe, while the bad mother is considered paranoid and controlling. The good mother provides unconditional love, while the bad mother provides transactional love. The good son or daughter justifies the bad mother's behavior, while every good quality of the good mother is rendered bad by the voice of the bad mother in the minds of children of narcissists.

Tags

My name is Sam Vaknin, and I am the author of Malignant Self-Love, Narcissism Revisited.

I am the author of Cold Therapy, and I am the author of Cold Therapy. I am the author of Cold Therapy, and I am the author of Cold Therapy. I am the author of Cold Therapy, and I am the author of Cold Therapy.

There is no such thing as an angelic and pure good mother. The good mother is always present, and the bad mother says she is merely taken for granted.

You don’t even pay enough attention to her to notice if she is actually there. She is like a fixture, a piece of furniture.

The good mother is predictable, reliable and consistent, and the bad mother says these are polite terms for being boring.

The good mother is emotionally safe.

The bad mother says that is a euphemism for being not exciting or adventurous.

The good mother is considerate and empathic, and the bad mother laughs and says you expect her to be prescient and predict your needs and wishes even before you yourself had become aware of them.

This would never happen.

So you either deceive yourself or end up being mightily disappointed.

The good mother is concerned, involved, compassionate and caring, and the bad mother says she is probably vigilant or paranoid, which drives her to spy on you and to try to control your every move.

The good mother provides unconditional love. She loves the child regardless of ease of her performance in fulfilling her expectations.

And the bad mother, what does she have to say? She says this kind of behavior amounts to spoiling the child. It may be pleasant in the short term, but deleterious later in life.

Love should be conditioned for good behavior and performance. It is the only way to face the hostile, merciless world out there.

Tough love is the only form of real love.


And now, to the qualities and behaviors of the bad mother.

Notice how the good son or daughter justify them.

The bad mother, as seen by her children, provides transactional love, conditioned on the child’s performance in meeting her expectations and fulfilling her wishes and needs.

What does the good son or daughter have to say about it?

They say, she has my welfare in mind. She is merely training me to survive.

Tough luck. The world is hostile and indifferent. People are measured solely by whether and how they perform.

Transactional love is a good preparation for life.

The bad mother is emotionally and or physically absent.

And the good son or daughter justified by saying, she is not smothering or doubting. She is giving me space to encourage and foster my personal growth and autonomy. She is not a control-free and she trusts me to get on with my life.

The good mother is capricious, arbitrary and inconsistent. Even these are justified by the good son or daughter.

They say, she is exciting to be around. She is adventurous. She is colorful.

The good mother engages in emotional victory. She is withholding. She is punitive.

And the good son or daughter, the codependents that they are, justify even this. They say, these are just desserts for having disappointed her and for having misbehaved.

I deserve what is coming to me.

She is fair. She is blameless. I am guilty. I am too blame.

The good mother offer brides and rewards for behaviors and accomplishments that conform to her wishes, fantasies, needs and expectations.

And the good son or daughter, what do they have to say about this habit?

They say, her giving is proof of her love and how much she notices and appreciates my achievements.

We had a common goal which we set to achieve together and she is very beyond.

The bad mother engenders with the child a cult-like shared psychosis, shared fantasies.

The good son or daughter say, she shielded me from painful and harmful reality with her wonderful capacity for storytelling and weaving narratives.

So they appreciate the fantasy.

The bad mother suggests to the child that they are faced with common enemies and that he or she is her true husband, romantic or intimate partner or friend.

This borders on emotional incest.

The good son or daughter say, my mother has always been my best friend. She made me feel unique. She could rely on and trust no one but me.

We had a special bond. We were united against the whole world or at least against my monstrous noble father. She made me feel that I am her one and only true love and passion.

Finally, the bad mother makes the child horrendous and displays neediness and clinging. She becomes the child.

The good son or daughter justifies this.

They say, she had sacrificed her life for me. She needs me now. She cannot cope without me and I am here for her.

Every bad quality of the bad mother is justified, explained and put in benign context by the good son or daughter who by now can become co-dependence.

Every good quality of the good mother is rendered bad, cynically vicious by the voice of the bad mother embedded deeply in the minds of children of narcissists.

In this sense, the narcissist is always with the child, dead or alive.

Facebook
X
LinkedIn
WhatsApp

Summary Link:

https://vakninsummaries.com/ (Full summaries of Sam Vaknin’s videos)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/mediakit.html (My work in psychology: Media Kit and Press Room)

Bonus Consultations with Sam Vaknin or Lidija Rangelovska (or both) http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/ctcounsel.html

http://www.youtube.com/samvaknin (Narcissists, Psychopaths, Abuse)

http://www.youtube.com/vakninmusings (World in Conflict and Transition)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com (Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited)

http://www.narcissistic-abuse.com/cv.html (Biography and Resume)

Summary

There is no such thing as a purely good mother, and the bad mother is always present. The good mother is predictable, reliable, and emotionally safe, while the bad mother is considered paranoid and controlling. The good mother provides unconditional love, while the bad mother provides transactional love. The good son or daughter justifies the bad mother's behavior, while every good quality of the good mother is rendered bad by the voice of the bad mother in the minds of children of narcissists.

Tags

If you enjoyed this article, you might like the following:

How Narcissist Survives Defeats, Errors, Failures

The speaker explains the internal conflict of pathological narcissism as two irreconcilable narratives—grandiosity (godlike omnipotence) and victimhood (external locus of control)—which produce intense anxiety and lead to externalized self-regulation via narcissistic supply. To resolve this dissonance, narcissists construct “internal solutions” (e.g., believing they control, permission, create, or imitate others) that

Read More »

Narcissist’s Opium: How Narcissists Use Fantasies to RULE

The speaker argued that pathological narcissism functions like a distributed, secular religion built on shared fantasies that organize and explain social life, with leaders imposing narratives to convert and control followers. Examples include race and meritocracy, which serve to entrench elites by offering false hope, fostering grandiosity and entitlement, and

Read More »

Narcissist’s MELTDOWN: Becomes Raging Borderline, Psychopath (Narcissism Summaries YouTube Channel)

The speaker explained that narcissists, when stressed, can shift into borderline and then psychopathic states due to low frustration tolerance, with aggression aimed at eliminating perceived internal sources of frustration. Narcissists interact with internalized objects rather than external reality, making them prone to coercion, dehumanization, and potentially escalating violence if

Read More »

How You BEHAVE is NOT Who you ARE (Identity, Memory, Self)

Sam Vaknin argues that core identity (the self) is distinct from behaviors: identity is an immutable, continuous narrative formed early in life, while behaviors, choices, and roles can change across time. He discusses clinical, legal, and philosophical implications, including dissociative identity disorder, concluding that even when behavior changes dramatically the

Read More »

Unconditional Love in Adult Relationships (Family Insourcing and Outsourcing)

Professor argues that ‘unconditional love’ means accepting a person’s core identity, not tolerating all behaviors, and distinguishes loving someone as they are from trying to change or control them. He traces modern misunderstandings to Romanticism’s idealization of partners and the outsourcing/insourcing shifts that hollowed family functions while turning the home

Read More »

Sociosexual Narcissist: CRM vs. Agency Models (Clip Skopje Seminar Opening, May 2025)

The speaker opened with multilingual greetings and briefly noted living in the Czech Republic and Poland. The main content summarized models of narcissism: sociosexuality and the contextual reinforcement model (narcissists seek novelty, destabilize stable contexts, and prefer short-term interactions), and the agency model with five elements—focus on agency, inflated self-concept,

Read More »

Baited, Ejected: YOU in Narcissist’s Shared Fantasy (CLIP, University of Applied Sciences, Poland)

The speaker explained Sander’s concept of the “shared fantasy”—a mutual, addictive narrative created by narcissists and their partners that becomes a competing reality and relates to historical notions like mass psychogenic illness. The talk detailed how narcissists recruit and bind targets through stages—spotting/auditioning, exposure of a childlike self, resonance, idealization

Read More »

Psychology of Fraud and Corruption (Criminology Intro in CIAPS, Cambridge, UK)

Professor explained financial crime as a white-collar subtype, focusing on fraud and corruption and arguing that many offenders show significant psychopathology rather than ordinary greed. Key psychological features include magical thinking, impulsivity, entitlement, narcissism, psychopathy, impaired reality testing, dissociation, lack of empathy, grandiosity, and compulsive behaviors (e.g., kleptomania) that make

Read More »

Abuse Victims MUST Watch This! (with Psychotherapist Renzo Santa María)

Professor Sam Vaknin argued that narcissistic abuse causes distinct, reversible trauma by imposing the abuser’s deficits on victims—eroding identity, agency, reality testing, and inducing internalized ‘introject’ voices that perpetuate suffering. He recommended initial self-work (identifying and silencing alien internal voices, rebuilding an authentic internal friend, body-focused interventions, and delaying therapy

Read More »

“Bad” Relationships Are Opportunities (with Daria Zukowska, Clinical Psychologist)

Professor Sam Vaknin discussed dysfunctional relationships and reframed them as learning opportunities rather than “lost time,” emphasizing that growth requires emotional insight and embodiment in addition to cognitive understanding. He explained that negative self-concept arises from internalized hostile voices, can be countered by developing an authentic, supportive inner voice, and

Read More »