Narcissism: Underdiagnosed or OVERdiagnosed?

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according to the six largest studies ever conducted on narcissistic personality disorder only 1.7% of the general population suffer from this condition and more than 60% of these are comorbid with other disorders which renders a diagnosis suspect so we are talking about a tiny fraction of the population contrast this fact with the claims by self-styled experts with and without academic degrees that something like 156 20% of the population are narcissists that is rank nonsense the trope online is that narcissism is massively underdiagnosed because narcissists do not attend therapy i hate to break the news to you that is also counterfactual nonsense narcissists attend therapy exactly the same rates that all other mental health issues disorders and

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  1. 00:02 according to the six largest studies ever conducted on narcissistic personality disorder only 1.7% of the general population suffer from this condition and more than 60% of these are comorbid with other disorders which renders a diagnosis suspect so we
  2. 00:24 are talking about a tiny fraction of the population contrast this fact with the claims by self-styled experts with and without academic degrees that something like 156 20% of the population are narcissists that is rank nonsense the trope online is that narcissism is massively
  3. 00:53 underdiagnosed because narcissists do not attend therapy i hate to break the news to you that is also counterfactual nonsense narcissists attend therapy exactly the same rates that all other mental health issues disorders and illnesses do actually there's one group of
  4. 01:16 narcissists who attend therapy more than even healthy people and these are the covert narcissists so let's look at the facts and try to ignore the online boulder
  5. 01:33 dash we start with studies pinkas and others in 2009 have already demonstrated that covert narcissists tend to attend therapy tend to go to therapy much more than the general population and then there was an avalanche of studies which continues to this very day and what we have
  6. 01:59 discovered is the following in the overt phase when narcissists are overt they truly refrain from therapy when they are overt they're gung-ho they're boastful they are self-confident and self- assured they feel superior they feel godlike they feel that they
  7. 02:19 are the raification of perfection they see no need to consult a therapist they see no need to concede that anything is wrong with them they don't believe that attending therapy will have any benefits on the very contrary they disparage psychology and all treatment modalities
  8. 02:38 as some kind of scam narcissists uh therefore in the overt phase are highly unlikely to attend therapy but when they experience collapse when they experience motification they become covert and then as coverts they resort to therapy more than the average because all narcissists go
  9. 03:08 through covert phases most narcissists do end up showing up in clinical settings the clinical net captures all the narcissistic fish ultimately all narcissists without a single exception have an overt side and a covert side even overt narcissists mistakenly
  10. 03:33 called grandio narcissist even overt narcissists become covert multiple times in their lives and then they are much more likely to attend therapy so ultimately to cut a long story short sooner or later the overt narcissist the godlike perfect entity and
  11. 03:54 being he has to confront or she has to confront her own inadequacy limitations failures there's a collapse state of collapse motification and the narcissist seeks help or sakore or asurances or to reverse the situation somehow and so on now the statement that all narcissists
  12. 04:18 end up in therapy or in clinical setting or most narcissists end up in therapy or clinical setting simply means that they get diagnosed there is no underdiagnosis of narcissism that's a myth it's a nonsensical myth however what is true is that narcissists do not make good use of
  13. 04:39 therapy they try to manipulate the therapist they try to learn secrets during the therapy as to how better manipulate and and mistreat other people they withdraw from the therapy early on and so on so forth i agree therapy is not a helpful process when it comes to
  14. 04:57 narcissist the outcomes are dismal and so is the prognosis however the very initial phase of the therapy the narcissist is diagnosed and this video is about underdiagnosing the narcissist or true or false the answer is false ultimately narcissists are as
  15. 05:19 diagnosed as frequently diagnosed as all other groups of mentally ill and mentally disordered people moreover intimate partners spouses courts grown-up children the online ecosystem and workplaces now all inexurably force narcissists to attend therapy things
  16. 05:43 have changed in the past 20 years and I take some credit for this awareness of narcissism has exploded so more narcissists than ever get diagnosed willy-nilly even if the narcissist is averse to attending therapy even though the narcissist believes that psychology
  17. 06:03 is a is a scam even if the narcissist does everything in his or her power to avoid clinical settings the narcissist is coerced pushed and even blackmade extorted into attending therapy a wife would say "If you don't go to therapy or couples therapy I'm out of here." A
  18. 06:23 child would say "If you don't go to a therapist I will never talk to you again." A boss would say "If you don't attend therapy I'll fire you." There are many reasons to attend therapy recently awareness of narcissism is exploded so more narcissists than ever
  19. 06:40 get diagnosed there is a good case to say anecdotally at this stage that narcissism is actually being overdiagnosed or even misdiagnosed not underdiagnosed so the authoritative figure of 1.7% of the population is actually either correct or inflated the number of people with
  20. 07:06 narcissistic personality disorder is very very small
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according to the six largest studies ever conducted on narcissistic personality disorder only 1.7% of the general population suffer from this condition and more than 60% of these are comorbid with other disorders which renders a diagnosis suspect so we are talking about a tiny fraction of the population contrast this fact with the claims by self-styled experts with and without academic degrees that something like 156 20% of the population are narcissists that is rank nonsense the trope online is that narcissism is massively underdiagnosed because narcissists do not attend therapy i hate to break the news to you that is also counterfactual nonsense narcissists attend therapy exactly the same rates that all other mental health issues disorders and

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