Insider View Of Narcissists Shared Fantasy With YOU (+ Psychopath’s)

Uploaded 8/16/2020, approx. 43 minute read

Summary

Professor Sam Vaknin discusses the nature of narcissists and psychopaths, emphasizing that they are users, takers, and exploiters who do not form committed, long-term, or emotional relationships. He explains that they operate within a pathological narcissistic space and seek novelty, and that they view women as either mothers or whores. Vaknin also highlights the importance of understanding these concepts and the role of abuse and sadism in their interactions. Narcissists and psychopaths have three types of shared fantasies: with a man, with a woman, and with creative work. The critical point in a shared fantasy is what's in it for the narcissist or psychopath.

My name is Yoono Hu, and I am the author of Yoono Wat. I am also a professor of psychology in several universities which will remain unnamed.

All this secrecy is because I am developing a strong, yet well-substantiated suspicion that Jordan Peterson is stalking me.

Look at the facts. He had resigned his post at the University of Toronto. He went on to Russia where I am teaching. He couldn’t find me there, so he ended up in Serbia. And need I tell you? Serbia is just across the border from where I am. So the fact that I am a paranoid doesn’t mean that Peterson is not after me. Jokes aside, I am profoundly heartbroken to have learned of Jordan Peterson’s multiple medical conditions.

Peterson is not the intellectual giant that he makes himself to be. But he is a wise and compassionate teacher, and he had helped millions of lost souls regain their composure and their direction in life. And for this, he is owed a debt of gratitude that can never be paid.

Had I been a religious man, I would have prayed for Peterson’s recovery. As it is, I just wish Jordan Peterson well, heartfeltingly, from the bottom of my heart.


And now to the topic of the video.

Abraham Lincoln, the President of the United States, had a saying. I don’t like that man, so I must get to know him better.

Lincoln was of course referring to me. But inconsiderately, he got himself assassinated before we had the chance to socialize and get to know each other better, and before he had the chance to like me even less.

Honest Abe was a contemporary of mine. No way, you say. You can’t be that young.

Yes, brethren. Yes, sister. I am as old as the Civil War, and some people say that I’m even older.

All I know is that my birth certificate is printed on a papyrus. What am I on about?

For a chance, Minnie spiked my jaw. Could well be.

But coming back to dead presidents, Lincoln was a sharp cookie.

You don’t like narcissists, and you really don’t like me, especially if you’re a woman.

I make your skin crawl. I make you lose your breakfast, and then some every time I pollute your screen, I’m a one-man bulimic diet, but you got to get to know the narcissist better.

And I don’t mean by demonizing the narcissist, and I don’t mean by parroting what everyone says, and I don’t mean by joining one of the cults that sprang up around oxymoronic and just plain moronic figures who woke up one day and discovered their inner narcissistic abuse expert.

No, you should be more, more clever than that. You should be exposed to clinically proven information based on scholarly literature.

I take pains to incorporate these in my horror shows known as YouTube videos.


So without further ado, plunge into my seething cauldron, Babies and Babettes, and get to know the men and women you all love to hate, the narcissists.

Just a gender comment before I’m flooded with, you know, countervailing arguments.

Women are catching up to men in every domain. The number of women in universities exceeds the number of men. Women are catching up in the workplace. Women are catching up as far as wage equality. Women are catching up in politics, Kamala Harris.

And in my not so humble opinion, women are surpassing men in many ways, and the future belongs to women.

We are heading from patriarchy to matriarchy, but women have begun to display antisocial behaviors that border on psychopathy, not only narcissism.

So women are catching up to men in this field as well.

And I would venture a guess, unsubstantiated guess, based on anecdotal evidence that the number of women narcissists is equal today to the number of men narcissists and that women are fast catching up in terms of psychopathy and antisocial personality disorder.

So, when you listen to this video, just exchange the pronouns and you will be fine. Whenever I say he, in your mind, use she. Whenever I say him, her, etc, etc. If you were exposed or fell victim to or were traumatized by a narcissistic woman or a psychopathic woman, just change the pronouns. It fully applies.

The problem is that it is useless to adopt normal language, to describe the alien and the abnormal.

How do you transcribe the mind of another person, even a healthy person, even a neurotypical? How do you access someone else’s mind? How do you know for sure that the reports emanating from another person are accurate, authentic, non-manipulative, true?

We don’t have access to anyone else’s mind.

We use empathy as a bridge, but empathy is speculative. You see someone crying. You say she said, maybe she said, maybe she’s manipulating you. You never know.

So, you can’t really. There’s no true statement about the mind of another.

That’s a restotensity, not value.

So, if you can’t access the minds of healthy people, can you imagine the difficulty in trying to make sense of the mind of a narcissist or a psychopath or a person with psychotic disorder? It’s almost insurmountable.

There’s so little in common between you and them, such a paucity of shared experience, so much is missing, so many jigs of others, that you might as well be talking about an alien from Mars, a Martian, or maybe about future advances in artificial intelligence where robots will become indistinguishable from people, when androids will roam the earth and blade runners will be all over.

Did you ever get the feeling that language breaks down when you try to reach out to a narcissist? That the very structure, the very structure of words and sentences and syntax and grammar kind of evaporates. It’s like language itself becomes slimy. You can’t hold on to it. It’s like a goldfish.

My proposed language.

Did you ever get the feeling that the word heartthrob, heartthrob, I hope I’m pronouncing, I mean, my accent is atrocious, my apologies.

But did you ever get the feeling that the word heartthrob sounds suspiciously like a lethal medical condition and that it inexorably leads and inextricably linked to drop dead gorgeous?

Why do these metaphors of sexual attraction have to do with death and devastation and destruction and everything?

Okay, let’s not go there or you will all start to suspect that I’m envious of muscular tinderkindlers. Forget it. I’m unique.

To hook up with me, you must swipe right, not left.


Let’s start with some basic facts.

Narcissists and psychopaths.

And there is a very big debate, has been for decades, a very big debate, whether this distinction should be made at all. Whether psychopathy is not actually an extreme form of narcissism.

But leave that aside.

Narcissists and psychopaths, there’s a series of facts, indisputable facts.

Fact number one, their users, their takers, their exploiters.

And this is the core essence of the word predator. A predator does not negotiate with the prey. Predator does not befriend the prey. Predator is not compassionate or empathy. Predator doesn’t try to understand the prey beyond stalking the prey, mapping the prey’s habits so that the predator can lunge at the prey’s jugular and tear it apart. That’s the extent of the predator’s interest in the prey. Predators are there. They are entities. They are like objects. They are like forces of nature. They’re not something to reckon with or to negotiate with. They’re like the virus.

It’s, you have to accept this. These people are, they look like people. They look like human beings. They, but they are in essence kind of a modern manifestation of body snatching. There’s an alien inside. There is a type of psychological construct, series of structures that are totally alien to you. You know nothing about them. You have no access to them, nor can you understand them or comprehend them using regular tools like empathy.

These people, these predators, they don’t form committed relationships. They don’t form relationships that are long term. They don’t form relationships based on emotion. These are the three things you must remember. Remember, remember, memorize, repeat until it gets through your thick skulls.

These predators, narcissists and psychopaths, are never committed, never long term, never emotional. These predators, like all predators in nature, they sometimes collaborate with you. They sometimes collude with you. They sometimes co-opt you. They sometimes cooperate with you. They sometimes love you or love bomb you. They often groom you.

It’s not that they are separated somehow. They are, they do interact with you. But they do all this ad hoc for a purpose. It’s goal oriented. The goal could be narcissistic supply. The goal could be to, in the case of narcissists, the goal could be to avoid humiliation and rejection and abandonment in the case of a borderline. The goal to be, to crawl into your panties in the case of a psychopath, but it’s always a goal or to take your money. It’s always a goal. It’s always about extracting benefits, securing favorable outcomes.

And narcissists and psychopaths in this sense are highly self efficacious. They’re very efficient. Just look around you, see who manages the greatest companies on earth, the fortune 500. See who is on top of, of political echelons all over the world. See who is, you know, in media, in show business, in the judiciary, in law enforcement.

I mean, narcissism and psychopathy work. They’re adaptive, self efficacious, highly efficient strategies, at least in modern civilization, as we had misconstructed.

And then once they’re through with you, once mission had been accomplished, you’re instantly discarded. You’re just a source. You’re a provider and you’re instantly discarded because you’re no longer of you or of you is.

And if you try to retaliate, if you try to reciprocate, which reciprocation in the eyes of the narcissist is an imposition. When you try to reciprocate, your, the narcissist interpret it, interpret it like you’re trying to incarcerate him, to imprison him, to hem him in, to limit him, to drag him down to mediocrity and commonality.

So narcissist regards reciprocation as a form of aggression with malicious intent. So if you try to retaliate, if you’re vindictive, or if you try to reciprocate, if you try to win him over by loving him, by being empathic, by being compassionate, by thinking of his needs, by preempting his needs. It’s a no-go strategy. It doesn’t work. It alienates the narcissist and psychopaths. It makes them your enemies. Only no contact works.

So when the narcissist and psychopaths, having eradicated, demolished and devastated and destroyed everything good in their life, when they’re forced to return to the scene of a systemic failure in a business, relationship, they numb themselves emotionally and they go through a period of dysphoria to the form of depression.

It’s critical to understand that narcissists and psychopaths interact with you, are with you, in a marriage, in a business partnership, in a club, in a church, in a political party, in a nation.

The narcissist and psychopaths are with you within something that I call pathological narcissistic space. PNS.

Yes, yes, I know all the jokes. PNS, PNS, got it.

The pathological narcissistic space is a physical space within which the narcissist can optimize narcissistic supply, can regulate it, can render it predictable where the sources are constantly available.

And so it could be the neighborhood pub or bar. It could be a country. It could be a company, a business. It could be his marriage.

These concepts are critical for you. I’ll come shortly to the topic of the video, but this is the introduction. These are critical concepts for you to understand.

The narcissist and psychopaths don’t operate appausally, wildly. They’re not wild. They’re very methodical. They construct spaces within which they operate maximally and optimally.

So that’s the reason that narcissists and psychopaths, having exhausted the pathological narcissistic space, often relocate, relocate or initiate a new business or start a new relationship with another woman or with another intimate partner. Sometimes they try to buttress grandiosity by keeping very busy or by getting involved in a new venture with a new position or by making an endless stream of YouTube videos. But it’s always about a new start.

So now you have all the three elements, no long-term committed relationships, pathological narcissistic space, and a new novelty. Novelty seeking. Novelty seeking is actually a parameter, a dimensional. So it has to be new, has to be shallow in order to gratify or satisfy the narcissist and the psychopath.

What is the role of women in all this? If the narcissist or psychopath is a man, remember you can change the genders, can switch gender pronouns. How does the narcissist or psychopath view women?

Through the narcissist or in psychopath, women are either mothers or they’re whores. It’s a famous Madonna whore complex, but I would like to rename it. It’s not Madonna whore. Madonna was good in Catholic Vienna when Sigmund Freud coined the phrase. Madonna don’t work anymore. It’s not the meme, the right meme.

Mothers, to the narcissist and psychopath, all women are mothers or whores.

And how to discover, how to ascertain, how to make sure whether you’re a mother or a whore.

There has to be a procedure. There has to be a job interview. There has to be a path towards establishing your credentials as a potential mother or a potential whore promiscuous.

So they abuse women. Abuse in the case of narcissism and psychopathy is a functional strategy. You know, you go online, you go to all these coaches and such type of experts and they all tell you how demonic the narcissist, how evil and how really, really, really, really bad. And it’s not nice what he’s doing. I mean, please, this is a kindergarten approach.

Narcissist abuse because abuse is a function and the function is to test you. It’s an ongoing test. Will you continue to be useful despite the same abuse? Will you act with malice? What is your breaking point?

The testing, the testing of boundaries. They’re testing your resilience. They’re testing your commitment. Are you a mother? Are you a whore?

Narcissists and psychopaths are interested only in two types of interactions, adulation or profit or sex or some goal orientation.

So in the case of narcissism, admiration, in the case of narcissistic supply, in the case of a psychopath would be money, sex, power, contacts, access, whatever. And the second type of interaction is stress testing. The narcissist and psychopath stress test your limits and boundaries and they do it via abuse and via sadism. And the sadism is manifest everywhere. The sadism is manifesting the smile, the smile that erupts on the narcissist and psychopath’s face when you’re in pain. The sex is manifested, the sadism is manifested in the sex, in the sex acts.

The narcissist and psychopath don’t have reciprocal adult loving, caring sex with you. He doesn’t even use sex to communicate with you. He uses sex to degrade you, to despoil you, to destroy you, to ruin you in a way, to deconstruct you, to decompose you, to render you a dead mother.

Narcissists and psychopaths are not interested in intimacy, in friendship, in companionship or in reciprocated adult sex.

Get rid of all this. This is what you’re trying to offer them. They’re not buying. They’re not buying. You are in the wrong marketplace.